RiskyBs
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Your Byond name: RiskyBusiness
Your character name: Owen Briggs
Their Byond name (if known): Dawson1917
Their character name: powergame
Time and date: 12 May 2019
Round ID: #331
Logs and/or screenshots: No screenshots unfortunately but the game in question was this one
Description of the events that occurred: Me and powergame are both antags, though unaware of each other. I will say that since 'antags are always valid' or so I hear, this comes with a grain of salt. Near the start of the round I found powergame getting stunned by a beepskybot. I help him out and say something along the lines of 'please don't robust me later'. I figure that for once, we have a friendly understanding. I accomplish my objectives with minimal fuss and on the shuttle I let powergame in to the bridge chamber to chill with me. With about 30 seconds ETC, he murders me. I am not his objective. I ask him why he did it and express my frustration with him doing so in OOC post-round and he makes it clear he killed me just to troll me because I asked him not to kill me earlier. He did not believe I was antag nor did he have an objective to kill me. This was immensely disappointing. At first I thought about ahelping but since he is an admin I did not want to find myself just arguing with him over it through ahelps.
Why you believe they should be punished: I understand that I often am irritating in character and I am usually more than happy to let people beat on me in retaliation or just troll me for the station's entertainment. Dawson and I often have back-and-forths like trying to steal the secway from each other or getting thrown in the dumpster and I generally tolerate him flexing on me for laughs. However, in this instance, I was totally friendly towards Dawson. I even straight up asked him not to murder me. His actions were funny only to himself and came at my expense. I believe his murder of me in this instance was a clear breach of Rule 0. A simple acknowledgment of this and an apology, or at least some expression of empathy that he ruined my round for shits and giggles would have been enough, but he clearly didn't give the slightest fuck when I legitimately complained in OOC.
The following is my subjective take -
Dawson is a repeat offender; he is, at least from what I've seen, in frequent breach of Rule 0 (Don't be a dick), Rule 3 (Don't murderbone) and Rule 4 (Limit powergaming). He just does whatever he wants, whenever he wants and often gets away with things that other users would get bwoinked or punished over. I find the fact that he is an admin to be a strong aggravating factor of his powergaming because other players are at a disadvantage in every sense. In the same way you might not submit complaint about your superior at work for fear of breaking rapport, it is difficult to take a stand against Dawson's actions whether in-game or not. He holds all the power and yet puts his boot in other players' faces.
As a sort of afterword, I would want to address Dawson specifically. I do feel bad about doing this, I deliberated for a long time before doing so. Some of your antics can actually be very funny and entertaining, and it is a good thing that you know what you're doing on the station. I don't have a problem with you dunking on me when I have it coming. I don't want to see you banned or deadminned, I just want you to exercise some restraint and acknowledge that you do go too far sometimes. I sincerely hope that we can continue to 'get along'.
Your character name: Owen Briggs
Their Byond name (if known): Dawson1917
Their character name: powergame
Time and date: 12 May 2019
Round ID: #331
Logs and/or screenshots: No screenshots unfortunately but the game in question was this one
Description of the events that occurred: Me and powergame are both antags, though unaware of each other. I will say that since 'antags are always valid' or so I hear, this comes with a grain of salt. Near the start of the round I found powergame getting stunned by a beepskybot. I help him out and say something along the lines of 'please don't robust me later'. I figure that for once, we have a friendly understanding. I accomplish my objectives with minimal fuss and on the shuttle I let powergame in to the bridge chamber to chill with me. With about 30 seconds ETC, he murders me. I am not his objective. I ask him why he did it and express my frustration with him doing so in OOC post-round and he makes it clear he killed me just to troll me because I asked him not to kill me earlier. He did not believe I was antag nor did he have an objective to kill me. This was immensely disappointing. At first I thought about ahelping but since he is an admin I did not want to find myself just arguing with him over it through ahelps.
Why you believe they should be punished: I understand that I often am irritating in character and I am usually more than happy to let people beat on me in retaliation or just troll me for the station's entertainment. Dawson and I often have back-and-forths like trying to steal the secway from each other or getting thrown in the dumpster and I generally tolerate him flexing on me for laughs. However, in this instance, I was totally friendly towards Dawson. I even straight up asked him not to murder me. His actions were funny only to himself and came at my expense. I believe his murder of me in this instance was a clear breach of Rule 0. A simple acknowledgment of this and an apology, or at least some expression of empathy that he ruined my round for shits and giggles would have been enough, but he clearly didn't give the slightest fuck when I legitimately complained in OOC.
The following is my subjective take -
Dawson is a repeat offender; he is, at least from what I've seen, in frequent breach of Rule 0 (Don't be a dick), Rule 3 (Don't murderbone) and Rule 4 (Limit powergaming). He just does whatever he wants, whenever he wants and often gets away with things that other users would get bwoinked or punished over. I find the fact that he is an admin to be a strong aggravating factor of his powergaming because other players are at a disadvantage in every sense. In the same way you might not submit complaint about your superior at work for fear of breaking rapport, it is difficult to take a stand against Dawson's actions whether in-game or not. He holds all the power and yet puts his boot in other players' faces.
As a sort of afterword, I would want to address Dawson specifically. I do feel bad about doing this, I deliberated for a long time before doing so. Some of your antics can actually be very funny and entertaining, and it is a good thing that you know what you're doing on the station. I don't have a problem with you dunking on me when I have it coming. I don't want to see you banned or deadminned, I just want you to exercise some restraint and acknowledge that you do go too far sometimes. I sincerely hope that we can continue to 'get along'.
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