HideAndSeekLOGIC's Ban Appeal

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Byond account and character name: HideAndSeekLOGIC
Banning admin: Gay Mime
Ban type (What are you banned from?):
Being straight (aka playing the game)
Ban reason and length:

Spawned as hotel sec and went to the station. Allegedly:
- Metagamed by 'hunting down the person who killed me'
- Killed 'multiple people', including
- Two Asimov borgs
- Another antagonist
After being teleported back, I suicided.
Time ban was placed (including time zone):
2019-06-14 5:10:53
Your side of the story:

I spawned in as hotel sec, tried the teleporter out of curiosity to see if the implant worked. Lo and behold, it didn't. So, I decided to simply exist on the station as an assistant without maint access because going back would require a lot more effort.

Here's where things get a little spicy. Let me break down Gay Mime's ban reasons and explain why all 4 are complete falsehoods.

1. It is verifiably false that I tried to hunt down the person who killed me. In fact, I passed him by the halls several times without taking action and even asked him for AA when he was in HoP's office. I played the character almost perfectly, only using the knowledge that was provided to me during my second life.

2. No niggas were harmed in the making of the legend. Let me elaborate on the 'why':

3. Two Asimov borgs "died" as a result of my actions. However, it's easy to argue that their 'death' was justifiable and didn't break any rules per se.

First of all, they were proclaimed rogue by the crew. In addition, I also saw the bootleg Captain riding one in the HoP's office earlier; I was told by the crew later that he was considered rogue, so by extension the borg was under heavy suspicion. That in itself is generally a good enough reason to lock them down, which I was in the process of valiantly doing before being rudely interrupted by two of them. Lacking a better alternative, I procured a flash; the rest is the history books. I made sure to leave their corpses intact so a roboticist - with at least half a brain wrinkle, that is - could fix them up in a jiffy once the antagonist problem was sorted out. I distinctly recall telling the crew this over comms as well.

In short, my actions in relation to the borgs were completely justifiable and performed as to do the most good and incur the least harm.

4. I killed an antagonist.

I shouldn't have to explain the reasons behind my doing so. I was completely in the right and I will do this over and over again once I am unbanned. Antagonists are the scum of the earth and deserve to be validhunted with every tool at one's disposal. He was lucky to have even survived 3 seconds with me on the station. I literally can't see how stunning someone and then maxcapping the hallway containing them is not a net positive for the entire round.

Just kidding, I killed nobody that round. Dawson should be ashamed of ever typing out such blatant slander in my ban reason and I'd feel disgusted if this detail is ignored by the other admins.


In addition to the above, I also need to point my reasons for suicide. Now that I had literally nothing to do in the game, I had better things to do outside the game. I waited for a few minutes for Gay Mime to continue with his bwoink; he didn't, so I logged off.

Why you think you should be unbanned:

There are several main reasons:
1. The fact that I left the hotel was at least somewhat reasonable, and my subsequent actions were that of someone who just came in on the arrival shuttle.
2. No rules were broken outside of that, despite what Gay Mime's intentionally demonising ban reason might say. This is for the reasons described earlier, of course.
3. Gay Mime is gay, and you've been gnomed.
 

Dawson1917

Janitor
Hotel staff aren't allowed on station, you know this. Don't get salty an antag killed you and take the hotel sec spawner specifically for a free energy shotgun and gear. 4head is 4head
 

terra

Terra
Host
I'm confused about why you say "killed another antag", hotel staff although they show up on the round end screen are not actually antags.
I'm denying this because
A. Hotel staff should never come to station under any circumstances
B. Did you know, hotel staff should never come to station under any circumstances
C. The ban is only 24 hours, why even appeal it
D. You killed people as hotel staff who should by the way should never come to the station

Also I'm sick of you and Headless (when he was still here) hating on Dawson for his perfectly fine decisions as admin. I can't tell if you do it ironically at this point, but it has to stop.
 

terra

Terra
Host
Further I'm actually going to disable the hotel, as it is unmaintained in the code and nobody actually uses for the purpose it was intended.
 
Hotel staff aren't allowed on station, you know this. Don't get salty an antag killed you and take the hotel sec spawner specifically for a free energy shotgun and gear. 4head is 4head
Absolutely no reason for someone taking the hotel role to not go hotel sec for the added benefits, so I don't really see your point there.

Plus, you give the impression that ignored the post before replying. I clearly outlined the reasons behind me entering the station and how my further actions were engineered to simulate a lack of meta-knowledge; all you reply with is 'lol u salty'.
 
I'm confused about why you say "killed another antag", hotel staff although they show up on the round end screen are not actually antags.
I'm denying this because
A. Hotel staff should never come to station under any circumstances
B. Did you know, hotel staff should never come to station under any circumstances
C. The ban is only 24 hours, why even appeal it
D. You killed people as hotel staff who should by the way should never come to the station

Also I'm sick of you and Headless (when he was still here) hating on Dawson for his perfectly fine decisions as admin. I can't tell if you do it ironically at this point, but it has to stop.
killed another antag
Gay Mime's the one to ask about that, I have no clue what he's talking about

hotel staff shouldn't come to the station
Sure, it's not like I need to try the implant again after I did so already. I gave you a reason for this, so it'd be great if you could at least try to address that.

killed people
This is irrelevant, mainly because I didn't kill anyone.

perfectly fine
They aren't.

it has to stop
No.

I'd greatly prefer if Dawson chose to discuss this in his bwoink or tell me to get on via PM instead of just outright banning. There, it's possible we may have even had a more or less civil conversation and resolved it in a way which would at least leave behind a feeling of fairness.
 

terra

Terra
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The banning admin's decision is final. If you for some reason find yourself on the station as hotel staff, you should contact the admins and ask to be teleported back. Under no circumstances should you kill borgs and antags. Hopefully this won't be an issue in the future as I'll disable the hotel. Closed and locked, see you tomorrow.

Also:
This is irrelevant, mainly because I didn't kill anyone.
But then:
3. Two Asimov borgs "died" as a result of my actions. However, it's easy to argue that their 'death' was justifiable and didn't break any rules per se.
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4. I killed an antagonist.

I shouldn't have to explain the reasons behind my doing so. I was completely in the right and I will do this over and over again once I am unbanned. Antagonists are the scum of the earth and deserve to be validhunted with every tool at one's disposal. He was lucky to have even survived 3 seconds with me on the station. I literally can't see how stunning someone and then maxcapping the hallway containing them is not a net positive for the entire round.
Like, what???
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